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Tuesday, October 11, 2011

The Protocols of the Elders of Dispensationalism

Jamin Hubner is becoming like a YRR version of Jack Chick, but without the funny comics. Whereas Jack Chick attributes all the ills in the Christian church to Roman Catholicism, Jamin attributes them to Dispensationalism. All he needs is an ex-Dispensationalist, Alberto-like whistleblower.

Jamin writes,

Fred mentions a “Dispensational conspiracy influencing American political policy regarding Israel ” that I supposedly believe in. I don’t believe in any “conspiracy,” but if Fred is seriously suggesting that the movement of Dispensationalism has had no impact on US foreign policy with Israel in the last 60 years, he is gravely mistaken and in ignorance of the facts (I would refer you to Marsden’s works for historical analysis on American culture and Dispensationalism, and Meirsheimer’s [sic] The Israel Lobby for at least some introductory observations on a variety of related issues; there’s more sources than these but I can’t remember them at the moment).

For what it’s worth, if Jamin really wants to understand the reason for the recent criticism he complains about in his post, he needs to re-read that paragraph. It’s this sort of borderline, shoot-from-the-hip, crackpot statement that gets him into trouble.

The fact of the matter is that Jamin has such a deep animosity toward Dispensationalism that it has blinded his better judgment as an up-and-coming apologist.

Lookit. If you’re going take upon yourself the role of an internet apologist, to the point of even establishing an on-line, theological journal complete with technical rules for contributors, I guess I am expecting a bit more academic objectivity in the articles you post disagreeing with various points of view. As a reader, I would expect more from a guy who is allowed to post on the blog of a ministry that has worked hard over the years to cultivate a respectable reputation in regards to such matters.

Would it be entirely fair to cite the National Council of Church’s 2007 resolution against “Christian Zionism” and claim it is representative of what motivates Jamin’s theology against Israel? Implementing Dispensationalists in a Zionist conspiracy to manipulate American foreign policy falls in a similar category.

Consider Jamin’s two examples:

First he notes the George Marsden’s historical analysis of Dispensationalism as proof of what he claims. But searching Marsden’s three major works on American Fundamentalism, Fundamentalism and American Culture, Understanding Fundamentalism and Evangelicalism, and Reforming Fundamentalism, no where in any of those works does he mention Dispensationalism’s influence on foreign policy regarding Israel. Marsden points out Dispensationalism’s attempts at social reforms in the U.S. and against the rising tide of Communism in Russia during the earlier part of the 20th century, but nothing specifically in regards to Israel.

Now. Certainly there have been individual Dispensationalists and Dispensational oriented ministries that have attempted to lobby on behalf of the State of Israel, but I don’t see their actions as a bad thing. It’s no more a bad thing than Christian ministries lobbying against gay marriage or for homeschooling rights.

Jamin’s second citation, John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt’s book, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, is one of those examples of sloppy argumentation and research against Dispensationalism that I had mentioned on a previous occasion. I had never heard of the book, so I had to go to faithful old wack-a-pedia to find some information on it, and what I found was troubling. I was especially troubled an alleged, up-and-coming Christian apologist would appeal to it uncritically as a reliable source for his position, which makes me wonder about his discernment in these matters.

It is one thing to cite from the book; it is quite another to ignore the crushing weight of criticism the two authors have received for their theory. If people like Christopher Hitchens, George Shultz, and a host of other similar “academics,” including moonbat Noam Chomsky, find their work severely lacking and folks like Jimmy Carter, David Duke, and Osama bin Laden give it high praise, it may behoove Jamin to at least take note that a bias may be involved here.

My advice to Jamin if he wishes to continue his crusade against Dispensationalism is to actually deal honestly with what the theology teaches. Stop singling out and focusing on hyper-Dispensationalism as if he thinks it is a theological aberration of what is otherwise considered sound theology. Jamin puts the garden variety Dispensationalism in the same category of error as the hyper variety, so he needs to discard the façade. He doesn’t care for either one. But that is okay. Just refer to my post from last year to gather reliable resources in your study.

Moreover, I hope Jamin reads a bit more widely in history as to Christians and the Restoration of the Jews to the land of Palestine. Surprisingly, the wack-a-pedia article on Christian Zionism is somewhat good as it lays down the historical background. It is important to note that what is now derogatorily labeled “Christian Zionism” was called the Christian Restoration movement in the 18th and 19th centuries. This is an area Jamin needs to evaluate, because something tells me Increase Mather and Ezra Stiles could hardly be implicated in a Dispensational, Zionist cabal.

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Blogger Peter said...

Very interesting!

9:47 AM, October 11, 2011  
Blogger DJP said...

Just embarrassing. Someone needs to acquaint him with The First Law of Holes, among a great many other things.

10:08 AM, October 11, 2011  
Blogger Jacob said...

When you get right down to it, there are three reasons why someone would try so hard to avoid the truth on this subject:

1 - You are deceived, whether willfully or otherwise, and therefore ignorant.
2 - Pride.
3 - You just really hate them Jews.

8:03 PM, October 11, 2011  
Blogger Jacob said...

For Hubner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1N1zhUm84w

12:02 AM, October 12, 2011  
Blogger Robert said...


I'd say that many people fall into both 1 and 2 very easily. What is sad is that they can't just use a plain reading of Scripture and let God's Word direct them instead of their heart.

7:51 AM, October 12, 2011  
Blogger Sir Aaron said...

This guy is nuts. Some cabal of dispensationalists dictating America's foreign policy towards Israel? Were they on vacation when America brokered the 1982 Camp David Peace Accord? Yeah, there goes that whole stupid theory.

6:55 PM, October 12, 2011  
Blogger thomas4881 said...

Isaiah 49:16 “Behold, I have inscribed you on the palms of My hands; Your walls are continually before Me.

11:25 PM, October 18, 2011  

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