He piled upon the whale’s white hump the sum of all the general rage and hate felt by his whole race from Adam down; and then, as if his chest had been a mortar, he burst his hot heart’s shell upon it.
Yesterday, someone sent me this link:
The gist of the post is summed up in the opening paragraph:
Have you noticed?
Everyone has jumped all over Harold Camping for being wrong in his predictions and eschatology.
Yet, John MacArthur has been shown wrong in his predictions (concerning Israel and their salvation by sight) and eschatology here and here and here and here and elsewhere, and in his teachings promising salvation to unbelievers after the second advent of Jesus Christ – clearly a heresy – and everyone says ‘hushhhhh.’
What’s the difference between Camping and MacArthur?
What’s the difference between Camping and MacArthur? Really? Camping and MacArthur have both made false predictions about the end of the world? Is the guy serious? And get this: he’s claims to be a pastor, too.
Let’s see: A number of the free, on-line dictionaries define the word “prediction” as, “foretelling how things will happen in the future.” Harold Camping, as we all know, first “predicted” the world could possibly end in 1994, though he left his calculations a bit ambiguous and opened to fudging by placing a question mark after 1994. But, 1994 came and went, so Harold Camping recalculated and foretold how the world will certainly end May 21st, 2011. He was so confident in his prediction he even stated on his website, “The Bible Guarantees It!,” this time with an exclamation mark rather than a question mark. We all know how that last prediction turned out, though Camping has since filed an extension with God for October 21st of this year.
Now, according to pastor-teacher Joel, John MacArthur has been shown wrong in his predictions and eschatology.
Go back and read that statement again.
How else am I to understand what pastor-teacher Joel is saying here EXCEPT that he believes John MacArthur has made the same types of predictions as Harold Camping. Am I missing something here? Anyone?
I happen to know something about what John teaches seeing that I work for the guy and attend his church. I have never heard John MacArthur make any prediction, anywhere close to what Harold Camping did, and then bet his entire ministry and career against it happening the way he says it will.
So. I leave a comment under pastor-teacher Joel’s post. I ask him to provide the specific examples of where John has made failed predictions like Harold Camping and everyone is saying “hushhhh” because he’s John MacArthur. Pastor-teacher Joel replies with a chiding comment saying I didn’t read his post carefully. He never said John, “made any predictions concerning Jesus coming or dates a’ la Harold Camping” and then adds, “What were you thinking?” He even posted a cryptic twitter message yesterday about people who don’t read comments carefully.
Wow. What was I thinking? Well, if you open up your post by saying Harold Camping was wrong about his predictions and eschatology and then in the next line say that John MacArthur has been shown wrong in his predictions in the same manner, how else am I to understand those words? Do I need to employ some sort of Reformed voodoo hermeneutic to get the true and deeper meaning out of the comment?
But, Joel attempts to weasel out of his libel by saying John was wrong about his predictions concerning Israel and the their salvation by sight. Ah yes, that makes all the sense in the world. Why didn’t I see that before. And to help me out more, he provides me examples of John’s wrong predictions by linking me to his VERY OWN BLOG POSTS on the subject. Isn’t that convenient.
Of course, none of those posts he links provides me with any of the specific examples I requested. They are all his personal rants against John’s Dispensational eschatology compared and contrasted against pastor-teacher Joel’s Covenant Theology.
He seems to be upset that John believes the nation of Israel will look upon their returning Messiah and be saved when He appears. In this post, after pastor-teacher Joel outlines his take on Zechariah 12:10 and its fulfillment in Acts 2, he asserts how John teaches another, false gospel, is a lying deceiver misleading the Church, and clearly is a heretic. Amazing. A lying, deceiving, heretic? I tend to reserve those kind of words for folks like Charles Russell, Clark Pinnock, and Benny Hinn.
I am curious. If the notion that Israel will be redeemed upon seeing their returning Messiah is a heresy as pastor-teacher Joel claims, what does he make of other Reformed men who also taught the same thing, like John Murray, Charles Hodge, Charles Spurgeon, J.C. Ryle, and even John Calvin. More are listed HERE. What about Martyn-Lloyd Jones when he said to Carl Henry in a 1980, Christianity Today interview that,
“To me 1967, the year that the Jews occupied all of Jerusalem, was very crucial. Luke 21:43 is one of the most significant prophetic verses: ‘Jerusalem,’ it reads, ‘shall be trodden down of the Gentiles until the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled.’ It seems to me that that took place in 1967—something crucially important that had not occurred in 2,000 years. Luke 21:43 is one fixed point. But I am equally impressed by Romans 11 which speaks of a great spiritual return among the Jews before the end time. While this seems to be developing, even something even more spectacular may be indicated. We sometimes tend to foreshorten events, yet I have a feeling that we are in the period of the end.” [Carl Henry, “ Martyn Lloyd-Jones: From Buckingham to Westminster,” Christianity Today, February 8, 1980].
I take it pastor-teacher Joel believes all these men were “teaching a false gospel, and leading the church into error?”
Honestly, pastor-teacher Joel needs to repent. Harold Camping and John MacArthur have nothing in common. How truly troubling it is that a person, not to mention a pastor, would so make Dispensationalism his “white whale” that he would full on bear false witness.