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Friday, August 14, 2009

JM on JC not being PC in WaPo

John MacArthur has a guest article in the Washington Post.

Read the Gospels: JC is not PC

Not sure how long the freebie link will be available, so best check it out as soon as possible.

By the way, notice the previous article in this column.

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9 Comments:

Blogger charles said...

I wonder why Macarthur is the darling of the satanic press? He's allowed on national TV with Larry King. He has a national radio presence. His books are sold in all establishment bookstores and his articles are published by The Washington Post! satan must know something about this man that most Christians don't. THEY DON'T ALLOW TRUE CHRISTIANS A NATIONAL MEDIA PRESENCE!!! Christians need to wake up about Macarthur.

9:08 AM, August 17, 2009  
Blogger Fred Butler said...

Oh Charles.
Let's examine your claims:

I wonder why Macarthur is the darling of the satanic press?

(Fred) Well, seeing that John is rarely published in newspapers, the "darling" charge is rather ridiculous. Generally he is published once, because they equate a large successful church with something gentle like Saddleback and Rick Warren. Once he is published, often times after being heavily edited, he is not asked to write again.

He's allowed on national TV with Larry King.

(Fred) He hasn't been on LKL for several years now. From what I understand, Larry has a personal fascination with John, similar to how Herod had with John the Baptist.

He has a national radio presence

(Fred) Christian radio presence? You make it sound as if he is as well known as Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck. He is not. In fact, when I drop his name among Christians who listen often to the Christian radio, they never know who he is. They know David Jeremiah, not MacArthur.

His books are sold in all establishment bookstores

(Fred) And those establishment bookstores are??? Maybe Barnes and Noble, but I haven't seen his stuff in our B&N for a few months now. You need to distinguish conviction of a writer from the publisher, who wants their product out into the market place to make money. There is nothing nefarious about that.

and his articles are published by The Washington Post!

(Fred) This is the first ever article published by WaPo. I would imagine it will be his last. WaPo operates from the perspective that they want to be unbiased and hear from many different opinions. John is one conservative opinion among thousands they probably appeal to to write an article.

satan must know something about this man that most Christians don't.

(Fred) You give satan more credit than he deserves.

THEY DON'T ALLOW TRUE CHRISTIANS A NATIONAL MEDIA PRESENCE!!!

(Fred) Tell me Charles, Who would be a True Christian in your mind?

Christians need to wake up about Macarthur.

(Fred) I sort of wish they would. There are very few pastors teaching with conviction and consistency the whole counsel of God. They would be blessed tremendously with his ministry.

9:30 AM, August 17, 2009  
Blogger charles said...

The Satanists who control national TV in America don't allow true Christians on TV. The fact that Macarthur is on national TV is very strong evidence that he can't be a Christian. Why don't you tell me who is a true Christian on national TV. Can you name even one?

10:57 PM, August 17, 2009  
Blogger Fred Butler said...

Well Charles, I happen to believe John MacArthur is a true Christian occasionally on national TV, if we can say the few moments he has on LKL counts as being on national TV.
So that is at least one.

Still, you insist no true Christians are ever interviewed. Can you name for me 3 true Christians (excluding yourself) you think would never be on national TV?

5:21 AM, August 18, 2009  
Blogger charles said...

I mean someone other than Macarthur. Can you name one true Christian other than Macarthur who is on national TV? That is basically a yes or no question.

1:31 PM, August 18, 2009  
Blogger Fred Butler said...

Yes I can, I have seen lots of pastors on national TV here and there. Jason Lisle, Voddie Bauchamp, Bob Jones III, or Ken Ham for example. But you need to still answer my question as to who qualifies for being a "true" Christian. You keep dodging that question.

1:40 PM, August 18, 2009  
Blogger charles said...

I looked into just one of your names--Ken Ham. It's highly questionable as to whether he is a true Christian and I'll tell you why. In the history section of his website (AIG) it says that people in his church laid hands on him in order that he could go on mission in the US. I don't see that's biblical. Also, he was closely involved with Dr. Henry Morris, a false Christian and Morris promoted him. Also, not to use circular reasoning, but he is on quite a few very establishment media outlets like PBS, I'm highly suspicious of Ken Ham, but I will give you credit for NOT citing people like D James Kennedy, Falwell, Schuller, et al.

What's the big deal about your question. There are thousands of true Christians in the US who would never be on national TV. Just name any Christian who opposes Israel and they don't have a chance of national exposure.

10:46 PM, August 18, 2009  
Blogger Fred Butler said...

Charles writes:
I looked into just one of your names--Ken Ham. It's highly questionable as to whether he is a true Christian and I'll tell you why. In the history section of his website (AIG) it says that people in his church laid hands on him in order that he could go on mission in the US. I don't see that's biblical.

(Fred) You're kidding? If a church lays hands on a person to affirm their ministry, that makes the person a non-Christian? Unbiblical? So when the Church at Antioch laid hands on Paul and Barnabas to affirm their missionary work (Acts 13:3) how exactly is that "NOT" biblical?

Also, he was closely involved with Dr. Henry Morris, a false Christian and Morris promoted him.

(Fred) Ummmm... How exactly is Henry Morris a false Christian? With the criteria you use to judge true and false Christians, you probably think you are the only one.

Also, not to use circular reasoning, but he is on quite a few very establishment media outlets like PBS,

(Fred) Really? Ham or Morris? So if a Christian is featured on PBS, that exposes them as being a false Christian? Its not their character and conduct?


What's the big deal about your question. There are thousands of true Christians in the US who would never be on national TV. Just name any Christian who opposes Israel and they don't have a chance of national exposure.

(Fred) But Charles, true Christians don't oppose Israel. Those who oppose Israel are being led by Satan to reject God's eschatological plans for the middle east.

You still need to name for me a person you think is a true Christian

5:53 AM, August 19, 2009  
Blogger charles said...

I'll concede that laying of hands is biblical, though it is most often associated today with the Charismatic movement, but you are absolutely wrong when you say true Christians don't oppose Israel. Only Christians who are blind support today's Israel which is the synagogue of Satan. It's a COUNTERFEIT Israel which the anti-Christ will soon reign from. Do you really think King David has a star??

I obviously don't know Ken Ham's conduct, so I can only judge him by his associations.

Henry Morris, along with D James Kennedy is a proponent of the Gospel in the Stars heresy.

11:46 PM, August 19, 2009  

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