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Thursday, November 20, 2008

Addendum to Israel and the Land

In the meta under my last post addressing Sam Waldron's study of Romans 9:6, a discussion popped up on the fulfillment of the land promises to Israel. Many amillers (and some postmillers) understand those promises as having been fulfilled. One commenter noted Joshua 21:43-45 which reads (in the NKJV),

43 So the LORD gave to Israel all the land of which He had sworn to give to their fathers, and they took possession of it and dwelt in it. 44 The LORD gave them rest all around, according to all that He had sworn to their fathers. And not a man of all their enemies stood against them; the LORD delivered all their enemies into their hand. 45 Not a word failed of any good thing which the LORD had spoken to the house of Israel. All came to pass.

I would simply note that the key discussion in Romans 9-11, chapter 11 specifically, is Israel's restoration, not total fulfillment of the initial promise. Of course the first objection one would make is that Paul no where mentions the land in Romans 11. I simply argue that there is plenty of OT prophecy connecting the restoration of Israel to the permanent indwelling of the land that a Bible student knows when Paul speaks of a remnant begin restored, the land is certainly in view as well. Besides, Paul's main point in Romans 9-11 is to explain why the Jews are in unbelief, not discuss the land.

Some of those OT prophecies concern Israel and the land are Isaiah 11:12-16, Jeremiah 31:31-37, Amos 9:13-15 (take specific note of vs. 15 where the prophet states, I will plant them in their land and no longer shall they be pulled up from the land I have given them), and Zechariah 10:6-12, 14:10, 11.

Matt Waymeyer, who maintains the Expository Thoughts blog, was kind enough to send along to me some articles he had written which helps to supplement this discussion:

More on the Land Promises

The Salvation of Israel in Romans (from the Shepherd's Fellowship blog. The comment debate in the meta is worth the read, too)

He did not list it among his links, but I would also add Matt's article published in The Master's Seminary Journal,

The Dual Status of Israel in Romans 11:28

I would further add Robert Dean's article critiquing O Palmer Robertson's popular Reformed approach to Romans 11,

A Critique of O Palmer Robertson's Interpretation of Romans 11

And lastly, Michael Vlach's brief article on Acts 1:6,7.

Does Acts 1:6-7 Teach a Restoration of the Nation Israel?



Blogger donsands said...

That's a fully loaded post, and will take a bit of time to chew on, which I'm looking forward to. Studying God's truth is good to do.

I thought I may be a historic pre-mil, but I'm not sure.

Thanks for all the links.

BTW, the way I began to look at the different views was from the Millineum backwards towards the begining.
I saw that some believe there will be sin offerings during the thousand years, and I take that as impossible, and an affront to God the Father's giving His Holy Son, as THE Lamb of God who took away the sins of the world, and who paid in His death on the Cross for all the sins of all His people. It is finished!

And so maybe I'm not a pre-mil at all if to be a pre-mil one has to believe sinners will be slaughtering lambs for their sin, while in the presence of the Holy Lamb of God.
Jesus destroyed the Holy of Holies, once and for all.

I'm guessing there are those who are pre-mil and don't believe God wants to build a Temple again, and have sin sacrifices, which would be works for their sin.

11:12 AM, November 20, 2008  

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