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Thursday, July 19, 2007

An Islamic IDer Evangelist

The NY Times reports on Adnan Oktar who is an "evangelist" for Islamic creationism. He utilizes many of the arguments against Darwinianism put forth by the Intelligent Design community here in the U.S. by publishing them on his website and in a multi-colored, well-designed, glossy book that he has been sending to prominent Darwinian evolutionists around the world.

Interestingly, Mr. Oktar would fit in well with his American ID counterparts because the one key pitfall for ID ideology is the notion of a generic, unnamed designer that is left to be defined by individual ID proponents. Thus, IDers are not keen on saying the self-revealed God of Scripture is the "designer" because that is a belief of faith where as ID is a matter of science. To be dogmatic on the point of actually identifying a designing creator, especially the one true Creator who has revealed Himself, would push away, not only secular intellectuals who are thought to be persuaded on matters of "evidence" only and should not be troubled by questions of religion, but also friendly ID proponents like Mr. Oktar who may not share the same faith commitments as all the other IDers.

That means the biblical teaching that Jesus is our creator who came in flesh as the Son of God to die for His people is just too divisive, especially for a strong ID proponent like Mr. Oktar the Islamic creationist. In fact, if you hit his website linked above, there on his mainpage is a study as to why Jesus is just a prophet and not the Son of God.

For me, an Islamic evangelist for ID is just another indicator as to why the ID movement as a whole could possibly face some major internal struggles as its supporters attempt to position their ideas as being taken seriously in the secular community. If you are confused as to who the designer is, why should anyone listen to what you have to say? At least Darwinians are united as to their rejection of the biblical God being the true Creator.



Blogger yeni said...

Harun Yahya does not propose ID, actually he criticise it in many ways. At his official site http://harunyahya.com in the middle of the page there is a text referring this issue.
"In order to create, God has no need to design
It’s important that the word “design” be properly understood. That God has created a flawless design does not mean that He first made a plan and then followed it. God, the Lord of the Earth and the heavens, needs no “designs” in order to create. God is exalted above all such deficiencies. His planning and creation take place at the same instant.
Whenever God wills a thing to come about, it is enough for Him just to say, "Be!"
As verses of the Qur’an tell us:
His command when He desires a thing is just to say to it, “Be!” and it is. (Qur’an, 36: 82)
[God is] the Originator of the heavens and Earth.
When He decides on something, He just says to it, “Be!” and it is. (Qur’an, 2: 117)"

And also he has some strong articles on that issue. (The "Intelligent Design" Distraction_http://www.harunyahya.com/new_releases/news/intelligent_design.php) He criticise basically that why intelligent design supporters avoid to pronounce the name of God. He says : "No Muslim Would Ever Say, "There Is Intelligent Design" Instead of "Allah Created"! Who Else, Apart from Allah, Could Expressions Like "Intelligent Design" and "An Intelligent Power" Refer To?". Read that article. It is a good one.

2:52 AM, July 20, 2007  
Blogger Fred Butler said...


It may be that Mr. Oktar has criticism of ID, however, his argumentation against Darwinianism is a mirror images of how ID proponents argue. This is particularly true with his use of alleged "evidences" that is designed to convince "unbelievers" as to the problems inherent with evolution and the acceptability of those "evidences" in favor of ID, or in Mr. Oktar's case, Islamic creation.

Additionally, Mr. Oktar embraces, as do the ID proponents, the "factuality" of a 4 billion year old world. Biblical creationism rejects a billion year old world and universe (because a straight forward reading of scripture rejects a billions-of-years-old world and universe) and this is despite what so-called old earth apologists like Hugh Ross and others teach.

Moreover, biblical creationism maintains that a sin cursed world due to Adam's fall impacts heavily the development of species and the natural world, another significant factor the majority of ID proponents and certainly Mr. Oktar never figure in with their criticisms of evolution.


6:06 PM, July 21, 2007  

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