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Hip and Thigh: Smiting Theological Philistines with a Great Slaughter. Judges 15:8

Monday, March 05, 2007

Why?

So what's the point of this photo?


Update: A little bit after I posted this photo, some person named "Paul" posted a comment claiming I was expressing hate for ridiculing Islamic customs and culture. I responded by saying my attitude is one that is far from hate, but of sorrow and concern for the vast number of Muslims blinded to the true God who is strong to save by the person of His son Jesus Christ.

Then, another person by the name of "Raulemir," who I believe is the same person as the previous "Paul," asserted that I could never be genuinely sorrowful over the spiritual condition of Muslims and post a picture so mocking of them.

Allow me to respond:

First off, my commenter needs to lighten up. In fact, I think his reaction demonstrates the serious problem of humorlessness on the part of Muslims. They take themselves way too seriously, to the point of unbelievable self-righteousness so that if anyone, like myself, points out a funny aspect of their culture and tradition, they seethe with self-important indignation. Sometimes, they react with destructive violence they then attempt to justify as necessary response to personal insult. I reckon that is typical of a culture that values "saving face" over anything else.

Look at the picture. It is extremely humorous. A group of women who are all dressed head to toe in black, unable to be distinguished from one another, all posing for a picture? Does the commenter not see the humor in it?

There is something to say about the deficiency of one's worldview when the person cannot laugh at the obviously funny things that may be apart of that worldview. I, as a Fundamentalist Christian, believe there is much occasional humor to be found in the way independent Baptists do things in their churches. Laughing at it does not mean I disrespect it.

However, on a more serious note. It is grievous to see women degraded in a manner where their religious culture dictates they are to be forced to cover their bodies, including their heads and face.

Now, I know Muslim men insist this is a way to "honor" women by protecting them from harm and keeping them modest, but I believe it is a phony "honor" masquerading genuine misogyny that is born from a society of males who are too weak or lazy to attempt to control their own lust. Hence, they try to cover over their lust by covering over the women. If you can't see the woman, a man won't lust, or so goes the logic. But this is a misguided way to deal with what is really a heart problem.

Additionally, God has created the human face to express the individual person. Our open face is how we identify each other, communicate with each other, and maintain dignity before our fellow citizens. It is what gives us personhood. Forcing a woman to cover her face, only to attach the facade of "Oh, we are really honoring her," is not only denying the truth, but strips the woman of her dignity and individuality. In reality, it devalues her worth as a person, and in an ironic twist, this is the same as if the woman was in the world of pornography.

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11 Comments:

Blogger Paul said...

It's hard to believe you would be so insensitive.

The "Why?" question must be asked of you.

Why must you hate Mohammed and his followers so much?

3:05 PM, March 05, 2007  
Blogger Fred Butler said...

It is not hate as much as it is sorrow over a people who are in bondage to sin and worship a false god. If I hated them, I wouldn't be concerned about their soul and would not give them the only gospel that can genuinely save them from this dire way of life.

Fred

7:14 PM, March 05, 2007  
Blogger Raulemir said...

Mr. Fred,

Your sorrow leads you to mock Mohammed and his followers with this picture? A good Muslim would come to you for words of eternal life after seeing you post this picture?


Mr. Fred, how should someone not wise in the ways of your religion understand this kind of "sorrow"?

9:47 PM, March 05, 2007  
Blogger thomas4881 said...

I guess one of the women could point themself out by saying "Oh, I'm the one with the blue purse",lol.

10:31 AM, March 06, 2007  
Blogger thomas4881 said...

Paul I love muslim people and hope they become delivered from error to faith in Jesus Christ. I do have good reason to hate the evil behind the people. Here is one good example shown today on FOX NEWS -

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,256980,00.html

10:34 AM, March 06, 2007  
Blogger Highland Host said...

As we already knew (from the trouble over some Danish cartoons), some Muslims have no sense of humour.

12:51 PM, March 06, 2007  
Blogger thomas4881 said...

That pic makes me want to look up why the women are all in black and the man is in pure white,lol.

2:08 PM, March 06, 2007  
Blogger Raulemir said...

Mr. Fred,

I no "assert" anything. My comment had three interrogatives. No declarative sentences. You avoid my questions. That's ok. I no want to argue.

Mr. Fred, I cannot know your heart. But with one tongue you speak of such sorrow; with another you laugh at Muslim distinctives. This is inconsistent.

If I point and laugh at your family, would you think I was friend to you? Would you think me friend if I mock your wife's clothing?

Now you tell me you love Mohammed's followers, but you laugh at them at same time? Why should they believe you?

I think you want too much: (1) condemn Muslims to hell; (2) tell them you "love" their souls and (3)laugh at them as they go to hell. Taking your beliefs on your terms, you can have (1) and (2) together. You can maybe have (1) and (3) together with some inconsistency. But I no see how you can have all three at the same time.

You have to let go of your claim to sorrow or stop laughing. Don't tell Mohammed's followers you love them and sorrow over their souls in one breath then laugh at them in your next breath. Someone may think you hypocrite.

I no think that. I just not understand this version of Christian love. Even in your Bible, Jesus wept over Jerusalem. He no laugh at it.

5:34 PM, March 06, 2007  
Blogger David said...

Raulemir AND Paul

You miss Fred's Point...It is funny...Laugh a little

5:56 PM, March 06, 2007  
Blogger Fred Butler said...

I no "assert" anything. My comment had three interrogatives. No declarative sentences. You avoid my questions. That's ok. I no want to argue.

(Fred) Could you tell me which questions I failed to answer? I thought I addressed them in my statement in the main post.


Mr. Fred, I cannot know your heart. But with one tongue you speak of such sorrow; with another you laugh at Muslim distinctives. This is inconsistent.

(Fred) I do not believe it is inconsistent. This is perhaps your confusion. I can certainly have sorrow for the lost Muslim, and still be amused with their cultural distinctions that are amusing.

If I point and laugh at your family, would you think I was friend to you?

(Fred) It all depends on context. If my family was doing something funny, like taking a picture that made us look ridiculous, then yes, I would have no problem with you laughing at us and would probably join you once I realized what it was you were laughing about.

Would you think me friend if I mock your wife's clothing?

(Fred) It depends upon what my wife was wearing. You do realize that there is a distinction to be made between the idea of mocking and simple humor. Right? You do recognize those difference, right?

Now you tell me you love Mohammed's followers, but you laugh at them at same time? Why should they believe you?

(Fred) I love them in that they need to be saved and when I am in a real discussion with them, that will certainly come out. I have the same love and concern for Roman Catholics as well, but believe me, nuns wearing habits can be quite funny.

I think you want too much: (1) condemn Muslims to hell; (2) tell them you "love" their souls and (3)laugh at them as they go to hell. Taking your beliefs on your terms, you can have (1) and (2) together. You can maybe have (1) and (3) together with some inconsistency. But I no see how you can have all three at the same time.

(Fred) Let me correct a couple of misconceptions: First off, I cannot condemn Muslims to hell. That is a punishment solely left to God to do. All I can do is repeat what the Bible clearly teaches and that is anyone who is outside of Christ will be judged by his or her works, and because no good works can earn a person righteousness before God, they will be condemned by those good works.

Second, your over reaction to my humor, your utter self-righteous indignation of me posting a picture that, well frankly, shows Islamic culture in a silly light, and your arrogant inference that I must respect Islamic culture no matter what and can never find humor in the cultural behaviors of Muslims, continues to demonstrate to me a lack of self-reflection on the part of Muslims. In a manner of speaking, I find such an attitude galling.

You have to let go of your claim to sorrow or stop laughing.

(Fred) No, I do not. I can easily do both and be sincere.

Don't tell Mohammed's followers you love them and sorrow over their souls in one breath then laugh at them in your next breath. Someone may think you hypocrite.

(Fred) You don't understand what the word hypocrite means. It basically means a person pretending to be something he is not. Al Gore screaming about how people should radically change their lives to meet the demands of his environmental principles, but then using more energy at his private home in one month than the average family will use in a year, is hypocrisy. Being sorrowful over the lost state of a people group, but then seeing at the same time humor in their culture is not hypocrisy.

I no think that. I just not understand this version of Christian love. Even in your Bible, Jesus wept over Jerusalem. He no laugh at it.

(Fred) Interesting you should mention this verse, because it came after a long, stinging rebuke of the Jewish leaders, and much of that stinging rebuke was Jesus ridiculing the religious customs and traditions of those Jewish leaders. Read Matthew 23, the entire chapter.

7:00 AM, March 07, 2007  
Blogger fredsissha said...

I don't think I have ever worn anything worthy of a laugh...

Hmmm... there was that one time I was dressed in Bedoin wedding garb during my stay in Isreal, but I don't know how funny that was. Oh yeah, that time I dressed up as a clown for a Leukemia fundraiser, but than getting laughs would be a good thing.

Even if he thought my apparel was humorous due to cultural differences, I would hope I could see the humor as well! :)

1:34 PM, March 09, 2007  

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