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Hip and Thigh: Smiting Theological Philistines with a Great Slaughter. Judges 15:8

Monday, January 15, 2007

Bad Pastors

I meant to blog about the first entry in this, what I hope to be on-going, series posted by the fine fellows at Free St. George's. The second entry made over the weekend reminded me.

Having taken an ordination class my final semester in seminary, and hearing about the gauntlet the young seminarians have to navigate through in order to be ordained at Grace Church, I can sympathize with the young minister in the first post.

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Blogger Highland Host said...

Ongoing, but occasional. We don't find stories like this every week.

11:02 AM, January 15, 2007  
Blogger Fred Butler said...

The one you mentioned a long time ago about the pastor and a big ox of a man forcibly bring folks to church is worth retelling in this series.

Fred

11:27 AM, January 15, 2007  
Blogger thomas4881 said...

People who become pastors who fail to meet the Biblical standards have a lack of reverence for God. They already lack reverence for God since they would defy his commandments. Then why they become a pastor they are the blind leading the blind. God will repay - James 3

10:37 AM, January 16, 2007  
Blogger Fred Butler said...

I don't believe the fellow in the story (click the link) necessarily was disqualified because he stood up for his convictions. If someone threatened me with a beating because I, as a pastor, wouldn't do something I believed was wrong, the person can give it their best shot, because I will resist with every ounce of my spiritual fiber.

Fred

11:17 AM, January 16, 2007  
Blogger thomas4881 said...

Fred doesen't the Bible say were to co-operate with the government? I think that's true that it's ok for us to defend ourself since the government has given us the right to make a citizens arrest and use force equal to the force being used against us? So I think God would approve.

2:56 PM, January 16, 2007  
Blogger Hiraeth said...

Thomas, I think the question of a Pastor's actions can be broken down as follows:

Reasonable self-defence or correction (e.g rudeness shown to a self-important church member). Practical jokes played on close friends are also quite okay.

Showing overmuch zeal for the Lord, in other words, acting as Peter in the garden. A verbal rebuke was enough for our Lord to give, so should be enoughin these cases.

Cases where the law has been breached. Depending on whether there has been a criminal charge and its gravity, appropriate action may be taken. If the law is contrary to the Word of God, a church should take no action (e.g. Pastors arrested for preaching the whole counsel of God when this offends favoured minorities).

Actions which are malicious in their nature, or tend to bring the church of God into disrepute. These are always wrong and should be treated with the utmost gravity.

2:10 PM, January 17, 2007  
Blogger Sarah said...

A bad pastor is someone who adopts a set of standards that are not biblicaly based. A case in point is the Rev. Philllip Sipes of St. John's Lutheran Church in Orange California. Rev. Sipes uses testimonials and liturgy from the ku klux klan to build men of faith. While most of Christendom rejects these teaching as immoral and unethical, Rev. Sipes believes that using traditions of the ku klux klan are moral examples of God’s handiwork in building men of the Christian faith.

9:14 PM, June 14, 2007  
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